Sean Conlan and Caroline Whyte speak with Dr Evelyn Forget at the University of Manitoba about her research into the health and social effects of a basic income trial that was held in rural Canada in the 1970s. Then we talk to Paul Harnett and Laura Bannister, who are both directors of the World Basic Income, and who describe why they believe a global per-capita basic income is not only desirable as a way to help address the global pandemic crisis, but entirely possible to achieve.